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Post  Admin on Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:19 am

Feel Free to post quick reference here.
Not full statlines, just the Space 2 week number and page number. for example



FREE SYSTEM
Stilleto Starfighter P2 W2 page 7
Machete Bomber P2 W4 page 6
Cudgel Heavy Starfighter P2 W4 Page 7
Hornet Civilian Starfighter P2 W12 Page 7
Antares StarFreighter P2 W13 page 12
Vespa StarFreighter P2 W12 page 6
Pirate Recycler Light Capital Ship P2 W14 Page 12
Model-T Space Station P2 W3 page 7

EEF (Main Fleet)
Aegis Starfighter P2 W2 Page 6
Lamprey Boarding Pod Strider P2 W6 page 7
Dusk Class Destroyer Light Capital Ship P2 W6 page 8
Kalino Missile Frigate Medium Capital Ship P2 W8-9 (Pt2) page 4
Vajra City of the Gods (COG) Class Heavy Starcruiser P2 W5 page 8

EEF (Uloh Free Confederacy)
Piranha Starfighter P2 W14 page 14
Limpet Starfighter P2 W14 page 14
MEGALODON Medium Capital Ship P2 W8-9(pt1) Page 4


Fort Lendill
GELPORS Civilian Starfighter P2 W7 Page 6
FLIER Escort ship Light Capital Ship P2 W15 Page 10
Wolf Class Cruiser Medium Capital Ship P2 W15 Page 10



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Re: Player Generated Index

Post  blackheartsecurity on Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:08 pm

FREE SYSTEM
Stilleto Starfighter P2 W2 page 7
Model-T Space Station P2 W3 page 7
Machete Starfighter P2 W4 page 6
Crudgel Bomber P2 W4 Page 7

EEF
Dusk Class Destroyer P2 W6 page 8
Vjara Class Heavy P2 W5 page 8

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Re: Player Generated Index

Post  LeftenantRyuk on Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:11 pm

Eventually I'm going to get all of this in a searchable database. (its a work in progress right now)


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Re: Player Generated Index

Post  blackheartsecurity on Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:15 pm

LeftenantRyuk wrote:Eventually I'm going to get all of this in a searchable database. (its a work in progress right now)


Excel FTW!

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Post  Admin on Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:15 am

LeftenantRyuk wrote:Eventually I'm going to get all of this in a searchable database. (its a work in progress right now)


Thats exactly why we posted this thread. So you would know where all the relevant data was hiding Very Happy

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Re: Player Generated Index

Post  blackheartsecurity on Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:00 pm

EEF
Kalino: P2 W8-9 (Pt2) PG4
MEGALODON: P2 W8-9(pt1) PG4
Piranha: P2 W14 PG14
Limpet: P2 W14 PG14

Free Systems
Pirate Recycler: P2 W14 PG12
Antares: P2 W13 PG12
Vespa: P2 W12 PG6
Hornet: P2 W12 PG7

FL (Holy smokes they have good ships!)
Wolf Class Cruiser: P2 W15 PG10
FLIER Escort ship: P2 W15 PG10
GELPORS: P2 W7 Pg6

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Re: Player Generated Index

Post  Mor'aye'ahn on Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:43 pm

There are other ships in the revised EEF guide and Border Wars Aftermath but the classifications on the class of vessel they are is a little foggy. A majority are labeled as capital ships but not light medium or heavy.

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Re: Player Generated Index

Post  LeftenantRyuk on Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:39 pm

Mor'aye'ahn wrote:There are other ships in the revised EEF guide and Border Wars Aftermath but the classifications on the class of vessel they are is a little foggy. A majority are labeled as capital ships but not light medium or heavy.


actually, I think that this would be a better way to do it.

Each person goes through the PDFs, noting where each vehicle and ship is. Just like you where doing your own, except on a pdf basis. there are 20 PDFs, so it wouldn't be bad to break them up that way. This will also allow us to know which ones to search through, if we have to search ourselves.

AS for the stuff in the books, I am currently more concerned with the space campaign stuff, but that would go in the db later. At that time, Clarification would be asked, but that is going to be a while, because the data entry is a pain.


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Re: Player Generated Index

Post  blackheartsecurity on Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:22 pm

AoD
King fisher P2 W11 Pg 5
Albatross P2 W13 pg13

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Index of Items

Post  MaehlHoldings on Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:59 pm

Hey folks,

For my own sanity, I created a list of most all ships, weapons, striders, power armor, upgrades, space stations, vehicle upgrades and/or weapons, and "other" that might pertain to Space Wars. The link is to my DropBox account, FYI. If you have problems with it, let me know.

Space Wars Items List V1

Features:
-First Row is Frozen, so it doesn't scroll
-Auto-Filter enabled, so that you can filter out just the desired faction, Item type, or location of the item (i.e. DR Core book)
-Fully Sortable however you wish
-Shows the Item name, Item type (i.e. Space Station), Faction (i.e. Iron Republic), Blackmarket price (ghaz), IR price (credits only), Faction Price (ghaz), location and page

Legend:
Factions
3Lat - Trilat
AOD - Angels of Desolation
BG - Banking Guild
EEF - Earth Expeditionary Force
FS - Free Systems
FtL- Fort Lendill
IR - Iron Republic
Kfed - Kasanthian Federation
Unity - The Unity
Multi - Multiple Factions
Other - NPC Factions, IRLC factions, and generic "other"

Items:
SF1 - Starfighter, takes 1 Docking Space
SF2 - Starfighter, takes 2 Docking Spaces
SF3 - Starfighter, cannot dock with other ships
Freigher1 - Freighter, fits in docking spaces designed for freighters (i.e. heavy frigate)
Freigher2 - Freighter, does not dock
Lt Cap - Light Capital Ship
Med Cap - Medium Capital Ship
Hvy Cap - Heavy Capital Ship
Sup Cap - Super Capital Ship
Living Ship - Living Vessel
SS - Space Station
U/G - Vehicle/Ship/Armor Upgrade
Weapon - Weapon (loose or vehicle mounted)
Strider 1 - Upright Strider
Strider 2 - 4 Legged Strider
Strider 3 - Large 4 Legged Strider (Capital Ship Sized)
Def Platform - Defense Platform, limited mobility
Other - Everything else (mostly power armor)

Book/Reference (I used 4/5 Character designations for my ease)
DRCB - Dark Refuge Core Book
EEFG - EEF Guide
BWAM - Border Wars Afermath
S#W# - Space Wars #, Week # (i.e. S2W1 = Space Wars 2, Week 1)
S#F# - Space Wars #, Finale # (i.e. S2F2 = Space Wars 2, Finale 2)
S#U# - Space Wars #, Update # (i.e. S3U1 = Space Wars 3, Update 1 aka Pregame Update 1)

I will post a message subsequent to this one for discussion regarding this list. I hope it is useful!

Legal: All the names and information in the aforementioned file are the sole property of Dark Refuge Games. All rights are reserved. It should go without saying, at this point, but since I utilized proprietary information, I thought it would be a nice touch to ensure it is obvious.


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About the Items List

Post  MaehlHoldings on Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:42 pm

Ok, so I created this list, and spent a lot of time and energy into it. However, it is not perfect, nor comprehensive.

What this list is:
A list of items, prices, and locations

What this list is not:
A description of these items. That would have been entirely too time consuming, would have too many variables, and would have been a copyright disaster. Plus, my goal was to create a price list for the banking guild, so mission accomplished Razz


What I left out:
Things that were too complex to categorize, in my sole and exclusive opinion
Oleifera items (see above)
SUARM stuff (see above)
Many Beacon City items (not sure if striders, def platforms, or something else)
Most Non-space vehicles (I included certain faction-specific ones, but by and large left them out)
San Martin specific items (as they are not generally available)
Certain defensive placements/items that weren't easily categorized with or by "defensive platform"
and probably most glaringly:
Troop Weapons, because there were too damn many

I also did not include certain drones and/or troop types that can be used in space (i.e Praetorians). I encourage others to create an index of troop types, character sheets/character upgrades, and standard weaponry.

My primary request of ALL players:
Review the Item list, making sure that I categorized your item appropriately. I am most likely to have erred on the difference between a Living Vessel and any other ship type. Since this list is sortable, it should be easy for you to review.

Discussion regarding my classifications:
First, I wanted to make the classification usable, despite the fact that a large number of items don't fit neatly into a category (most of the time it was purposeful by your parts). Thus I prioritized the following:

For starfighters, does it fit into a docking bay? If so, how many slots does it take? Answer: it takes either 1 slot, 2 slots, or does not fit. Hence SF1, SF2, SF3

For Freighters, does it fit into a docking bay (specifically of a heavy frigate, which is designed to dock them, not at a space port)? Freighter 1 fits, Freighter 2 does not. Freighter 2 spans the gamut of medium to huge, but other than capacity and maybe weapon slots, there isn't too much of a discrepency between them. Not like capital ships, at least. However, if people want to distinguish between a vespidae, antares, carrion, and others, we can discuss what that would mean.

For Capital Ships: this was the trickiest one, especially since this designation didn't always exist in the past. So I used the following criteria to determine how, if at all, a designation should be assigned:
1) How many people does it fit?
2) How many ships does it fit?
3) How fast is the ship?
4) How heavily armored is the ship?
5) How is the ship armed?

Priority determination is size. 1000+ crew, 100+ ships is super capital. 700+ crew, 70 + ships is heavy. 300+ crew, 20 + ships is medium, 20 + crew, 10 or so ships is light. As these numbers vary, I also take into consideration speed: 20 - Light, 14 - 20 Medium, 10-13 heavy, anything slower is Super Capital. Again, as there is much variance, Armor: 700+ Super Heavy, 500+ Heavy, 200+ Medium, Everything else Light. The final designator was how heavily armed was the ship. Light is either for anti-capital ship bombing or anti-fighter bombing. Medium tends to be anti-fighter/anti-frieghter. Heavy is for all types of damage, especially orbital bombardments. Super Heavies should be feared for their firepower.

For Striders:
I did not designate if the strider was space-ready or not. That's the players responsibilty to figure out. I cared if it was vertical, horizonal, and mammoth. All strider 1s, even if some are bigger than Strider 2s, are vertical. Again, the purpose was for determining dockability. If I labelled a Strider1 that cannot be docked as a Strider 1 for any reason, please let me know and we can change the designation to either 2 or 3. Twos are horizontal, and thus take more space, but the presumption is that it would need different docking mechanisms. Threes are not dockable and are mini-capital ships themselves.

N/A Pricing - means it's either priceless or not available for sale. If you own a product that you want to be able to sell. Please contact admin and he'll determine the price.

How to adjust the worksheet:
Post changes here by copying/pasting the row of text to a new post on this thread. I will amend the spreadsheet accordingly and advise with a new version change. I will do so weekly (RL). Please post separately what is and what is not up for discussion (i.e. I wonder if ___ is medium vs. large) and what is not (the ONS is a living ship). Admin makes all final determinations if I have my doubts. Since I will only be doing updates weekly (as per Fridays), feel free to edit your post as many times as required before the Friday in question. Any other questions, comments, or concerns can either be posted here, PMd to me. If there is dispute, I defer to admin.

For any entries that are lacking:
Please put the entries in a spreadsheet using the format of the Item List, Excel 97 and earlier format, and email to Group2. He will forward them to me for further editing and placement into the spreadsheet list. He will do so only once a week. Feel free to post here as text in the interim, in case people want to reference in the short term.

Again, my work was a labor of love, please no negative comments regarding my methods, presentation, and what I did or did not include. I encourage anyone with ideas, improvements, or better formats to do them accordingly. I can host any files accordingly, until such a time when Admin does so formally.

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Post  GeneralGarminFe on Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:28 pm

If you visit my research thread you will find all the Beacon City gear that I've been using is listed with blackmarket prices and page references included. Things like frost generators, hearts of the forgotten, and nephilim giants might still be relevant as I've been using them a lot.
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Post  PresidentRagman on Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:14 pm

just noticed "bloomship' are medium capital, you have them as heavy capital ships. i only know cuz i had to ask admin so i could get them on my character sheet
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Post  blackheartsecurity on Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:49 pm

Its not letting me DL it

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Re: Player Generated Index

Post  Admin on Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:53 pm

PresidentRagman wrote:just noticed "bloomship' are medium capital, you have them as heavy capital ships. i only know cuz i had to ask admin so i could get them on my character sheet

very true Bloom Ships are mediums.

A few other corrections Red Stars are Satellites and count as VPDs on the character sheet (not a space station)

Red Fists should be listed as Striders (or power armor either is fine it walks that fine line)

Thanks from all of us for this wonderful reference. I think it will be very helpful to everyone.

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Re: Player Generated Index

Post  blackheartsecurity on Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:17 am

I am doing the weapons list (Or trying) just incase anyone had that bright idea and lots of time (Stupid no car)

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V2 Update

Post  MaehlHoldings on Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:20 am

Hey all, made above fixes, and added some weapons from EEF guide that I had missed.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9301466/SW%20Item%20List%20v2.xls

Version 2, updated 11 Jul 11

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